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Satellite news from Moscow, 09.07.1997




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Ñïóòíèêîâûå íîâîñòè èç Ìîñêâû, 09.07.1997
Satellite news from Moscow, 09.07.1997
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Çàãîëîâêè / Headlines:
"Íå òàê ñòðàøåí Thor, êàê åãî ìàëþþò" / Thor II is increasing it's power !
Íå ïîðà ëè ïåðåèìåíîâûâàòü Intelsat 604 â Gals 3 / Isn't it already time to
rename Intelsat 604 into Gals 3
SAT-Moscow-Q&A: Âîïðîñû è îòâåòû / SAT-Moscow-Q&A Questions and answers
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"Íå òàê ñòðàøåí Thor, êàê åãî ìàëþþò" / Thor II is increasing it's power !
***
Åùå ïàðó äíåé íàçàä ÿ õîòåë áûëî ðàçðàçèòüñÿ ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó ãíåâíîé ñòàòüåé
îòíîñèòåëüíî ïëàíîâ ñêàíäèíàâîâ ïî èñïîëüçîâàíèþ "ñâåæåçàïóùåííîé ïòèêè".
Îäíàêî, â íåêîòîðîì ðîäå âñå îêàçàëîñü íå òàê óæ è ñòðàøíî.
Thor 2 â Ìîñêâå ëîâèòü ìîæíî, õîòÿ ìàëåíüêèå (1.2-1.5 ì) àíòåííû äëÿ
Intelsat 707 íå ñîâñåì ïîäîéäóò. Îáî âñåì ïî ïîðÿäêó.
Ïîòè ñîâñåì îòàÿâøèñü ïîñëå èíôîðìàöèè î ïåðåõîäå MTV ñ Intelsat 707
íà Thor 2, ÿ ðåøèë ïåðåä ïîêóïêîé îáîðóäîâàíèÿ ÊîñìîñÒÂ âñå-òàêè åùå ðàç
ïîñìîòðåòü âñå àñòîòû ñïóòíèêà Thor 2 - ìîæåò áûòü, òî-ëèáî èçìåíèëîñü
ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ïåðâîíààëüíûì ðàñêëàäîì. Íàïîìíþ, ÿ èñïîëüçóþ
àíòåííó Jonsa äèàìåòðîì 2.4ì (ðåàëüíàÿ ðàáîòà - 1.2ì), ðåñèâåð Echostar
LT-8700 è äåêîäåð D/D2-MAC Nokia 3002 CS. Ïåðâûì áûë òðàíñïîíäåð 11.214 V.
Êàêîâî æå áûëî ìîå óäèâëåíèå, êîãäà ðåêëàìà êàíàëà TV Danmark îòêðûëàñü
ñîâåðøåííî áåç ïðîáëåì, ïðàâäà, ñ ïðèëèíûì êîëèåñòâîì ìóõ. Low
Treshold-ñèñòåìà íà äàííîì êàíàëå ïîìîãëà ïðåêðàñíî - ñ óðîâíåì LT 5
èçîáðàæåíèå
èìåëî ïîòè ïðåêðàñíîå êàåñòâî, ñòàáèëüíî øåë è íå ñðûâàëñÿ çâóê. Ïîçæå
ìíå óäàëîñü åùå áîëüøå óëóøèòü êàåñòâî êàðòèíêè - ÿ ñäâèíóë íà
òðè åäèíèöû ïîçèöèîíåðà, âñòðîåííîãî â LT-8700, àíòåííó íà âîñòîê. 
Ýòî äàëî ïîðàçèòåëüíûå ðåçóëüòàòû - ïîòè íà âñåõ êàíàëàõ Thor 2 ñòàë
îòêðûâàòüñÿ D2-MAC ! Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïðàâäà, íå âñå êàíàëû ðàñêîäèðîâàëèñü, íî
àíòåííà äèàìåòðîì 1.8-2.0 ì äîëæíà, ïî èäåå, áåç ïðîáëåì îòêðûâàòü âñå
êàíàëû.
Èòàê, òî óäàëîñü (èëè íå óäàëîñü) ïðèíÿòü ñ Thor 2:
1) 11.214 V - Ðåêëàìà êàíàëà TV Danmark. LT 3 (âûäåðæèâàåò äî 8), çâóê
ñòàáèëüíî, êàðòèíêà ñòàáèëüíî, íåìíîãî ìóõ (ïîñëåäñòâèÿ LT).
2) 11.322 H - NRK 2, LT 2 (âûäåðæèâàåò äî 8), çâóê ïîòè ñòàáèëüíî,
êàðòèíêà ñòàáèëüíî, Eurocrypt îòêðûâàåòñÿ åðåç 3-5 ìèíóò ïîñëå âêëþåíèÿ,
ìóõ íåìíîãî.
3) 11.387 H - Sportskanalen - LT 3 (âûäåðæèâàåò äî 6), çâóêà íåò, 
êàðòèíêà èíîãäà (ðåäêî) ñðûâàåòñÿ, Eurocrypt íå îòêðûâàåòñÿ.
4) 11.355 H - NRK 1 - çâóê, êàðòèíêà è Eurocrypt íå îòêðûâàþòñÿ.
5) 11.431 V - MTV - LT 0 (ïðè óâåëèåíèè LT - ìãíîâåííî ñðûâ),
çâóêà íåò, êàðòèíêà çàõâàòûâàåòñÿ, íî àñòî ñðûâàåòñÿ. Eurocrypt
íå îòêðûâàåòñÿ. 
6) 11.420 H - Ðåêëàìà êàíàëà TV Norge â PAL. Ìóõè ïîëíîñòüþ óáèðàþòñÿ
ïðè LT 11.
7) 11.245 V - ïàêåò Telenor - d-box âèäèò öèôðîâîé ïîòîê, íî èç-çà
íåäîñòàòîíîé ìîùíîñòè ñèãíàëà íå îòêðûâàåò åãî. Òàê æå íà
11.227 H è 11.307 V.
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Ýòà ñòàòüÿ ïèñàëàñü ñåãîäíÿ óòðîì. Îêîëî 18:10 ñèãíàë ñ Thor 2 ñòàë ðåçêî
ïðèáàâëÿòüñÿ, äîñòèã óðîâíÿ ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî 50 dBW â Ìîñêâå, è ìèíóò
åðåç 10 ñíîâà íààë ïàäàòü. Âîçìîæíî, Telenor äâèãàåò ëóîì ïî Çåìëå
äëÿ ïîèñêà îïòèìàëüíîãî ïîêðûòèÿ. Ðàçóìååòñÿ, íå â íàøó ïîëüçó.
Õîòÿ - ïîæèâåì - óâèäèì.
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Couple of days ago I wanted to write a really angry article about plans of
scandinavians about usage of their "freshly-launched-bird". But everything
turned out not to be so bad. Thor 2 is recieveable in Moscow, but small
(1.2-1.5m) Intelsat 707 dishes will not do the job. But let me tell you
about
everything step-by-step.
After the information about MTV's move from Intelsat 707 to Thor 2 almost
completely morally killed me, I was ready to buy the reception kit of
KosmosTV
(which broadcasts it in Moscow as an MMDS channel), and decided to take a
look over Thor 2 transponders. I had a hope that something have probably
changed.
I use 2.4m Jonsa dish (which actually works like 1.2m in Ku-band),
Echostar LT-8700 reciever and Nokia 3002 CS MAC decoder.
The first transponder I tried to recieve was 11.214 V. How surprised I was
when
TV Danmark promo was easily opened by my decoder ! The picture had quite
a big ammount of sparklies, but was decoded. Low Treshold system perfectly
helped
for recieveing this channel - LT level 5 allowed to achieve almost perfect
picture,
stable and non-ceasing sound. Later I got even more good quality - I moved
my dish a little bit eastwards. This resulted great - D2-MAC was decodeable
almost on all channels of Thor 2 ! Unfortunatelly, Eurocrypt was not
decoded on some channels, 
but a 1.8-2.0m dish should, probably, easily open all the channels.
So, what I was able (or unable) to recieve from Thor 2:
1) 11.214 V - TV Danmark promo. LT level 3 (picture does not cease on LT
levels up to 8), sound is stable, picture is stable, some sparklies.
2) 11.322 H - NRK 2, LT level 2 (picture does not cease on LT levels up to
8),
sound is almost stable, picture is stable, decoder opens Eurocrypt in 3-5
minutes from the moment of opening D2-MAC, a small ammount of sparklies.
3) 11.387 H - Sportskanalen - LT 3 (picture does not cease on LT levels up
to 6),
no sound, picture ceases from time-to-time, Eurocrypt can not be decoded.
4) 11.355 H - NRK 1 - sound, picture and Eurocrypt can not be opened.
5) 11.431 V - MTV - LT 0 (picture ceases at once with the attempt of
increasing the LT level), no sound, picture - D2-MAC decoded very 
unstable, Eurocrypt not decoded at all.
6) 11.420 H - TV Norge promo in PAL. All sparklies go away with LT level of
11.
7) 11.245 V, 11.227 H and 11.307 V - digital packages. D-box can see 
the digital stream on each of these transponders, but can not decode the
signal - too weak.
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This article was written today in the morning. In the afternoon, the signal
power from Thor 2 started to increase strongly, and at 16:10 CET reached
the level of 50 dBW.
At 16:20 the signal power started to decrease again, and very soon
everything was like before. Looks like Telenor moves the beam from side to
side to achieve the perfect coverage (which doesn't cover Moscow). Well,
let's wait and see, the actual footprint is still to be drawn.

Íå ïîðà ëè ïåðåèìåíîâûâàòü Intelsat 604 â Gals 3 / Isn't it already time to
rename Intelsat 604 into Gals 3
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Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ñ ýòîãî ñïóòíèêà âåäóò ñâîå âåùàíèå óæå äîñòàòîíî
ðóññêîÿçûíûõ êàíàëîâ. Â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ â íåêîäèðîâàííîì MPEG-2 DVB
ìîæíî ïðèíèìàòü êàíàëû ÐÒÐ (2 âåðñèè), ÍÒÂ è ÒÂ-Öåíòð íà àíòåííû
âïîëíå ðåàëüíûõ äèàìåòðîâ (â Öåíòðàëüíîé Ðîññèè). 
Äîñòàòîíî ïîäðîáíàÿ êàðòà ïîêðûòèÿ ñïóòíèêà Intelsat 604 ïðèâåäåíà ïî
àäðåñó http://yi.com/home/DxerNickolas/intbeam.jpg
Íà äàííûé ìîìåíò ìîæíî ïðèíèìàòü äâà ïàêåòà - ÍÒÂ (11.515 V) è ÐÒÐ-Ñèãíàë
(çàìåíèâøèé ÐÒÐ-Òåëåñåòü íà 11.135 V). Â ïàêåò ÍÒÂ âõîäÿò åòûðå
êàíàëà: 
PID-êîäû                 Êàíàë
40FF/4100        Òåëåðàäèîêîìïàíèÿ ÌÈÐ (íåðåãóëÿðíî)
41FF/4200        ÒÂ Öåíòð
42FF/4300        ÍÒÂ
43FF/4400        ÒÂ Öåíòð
Ïàðàìåòðû ïàêåòà ÍÒÂ: SR 25193, FEC 3/4.
Ïàêåò ÐÒÐ-Ñèãíàë àêòèâíî òåñòèðóåòñÿ. Ïàðàìåòðû è ñîäåðæèìîå ìåíÿþòñÿ
ïðàêòèåñêè êàæäûé äåíü. Äî íåäàâíåãî âðåìåíè â íåì âåùàëè øåñòü êàíàëîâ:
åòûðå âåðñèè ÐÒÐ, òåñò-òàáëèöà è Eurosport (!). Îäíàêî, â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ,

êàê òîëüêî ïàêåò íààë àêòèâíî ìåíÿòü ïàðàìåòðû, â íåì îñòàëèñü òîëüêî
åòûðå êàíàëà:
PID-êîäû               Êàíàë
4021/4022              ÐÒÐ 
4025/4026              ÐÒÐ (-6 àñîâ)
402A/402B             ÐÒÐ
402E/402F             Òåñò
Ïàðàìåòðû íà äàííûé ìîìåíò: SR 26660, FEC 1/2.
Íåèçâåñòíà ñóäüáà êàíàëîâ Ìåòåîð-Ñïîðò è Ìåòåîð-Êèíî, ïîñëå òîãî, êàê îíè
áûëè ïðèîáðåòåíû òåëåêîìïàíèåé ÒÂ Öåíòð. Âîçìîæíî, ÒÂ Öåíòð óæå âåùàåò èõ
åðåç êàêîé-ëèáî äðóãîé ñïóòíèê â öèôðîâîì âèäå, îñîáî íå àôèøèðóÿ ñâîè
ïåðåäàè.
***
Really, already quite a big number of russian-speaking channels can be
found on this satellite. At the moment it is possible to recieve RTR (2
versions), NTV and 
TV-Centr in MPEG-2 DVB unencrypted. Small dishes are required to recieve
the signal in central Russia. To find out about a dish size for you, check
out the footprint at http://yi.com/home/DxerNickolas/intbeam.jpg
Nowdays it's possible to recieve two packages - NTV package (11.515 V) and
RTR-Signal package (which have replaced RTR-Teleset at 11.135 V).
NTV package includes 4 channels:
PID-codes               Channel
40FF/4100         Teleradiocompany MIR (irregular)
41FF/4200         TV Centr
42FF/4300         NTV 
43FF/4400         TV Centr
Parameters of the package: SR 25193, FEC 3/4.
The package RTR-Signal is currently performing a lot of testing. Parameters
and contents of the package is changing almost every day. Some time ago 
there were 6 channels: 4 versions of RTR, test channel, and Eurosport(!).
But, lately, as soon as package started the parameters change, only 4
channels 
were left:
PID-codes              Channel
4021/4022              RTR 
4025/4026              RTR (-6 hours)
402A/402B             RTR
402E/402F              Test
Parameters at the moment: SR 25193, FEC 3/4.
It is not yet known, what happened to channels called "Meteor-Kino" and
"Meteor-Sport", after TV Centr have bought them both. Probably, TV Centr is
broadcasting them digitally from a different satellite, and not hurrying to
announce this to everybody.

SAT-Moscow-Q&A: Âîïðîñû è îòâåòû / SAT-Moscow-Q&A Questions and answers
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1) Äîáðûé äåíü!
Âåðà êóïèë D-box 9500S,
à ó íåãî âñå ýêðàííûå ìåíþ íà íåìåöêîì, õîòÿ óâñòâóþ òî ìîæíî ïåðåéòè íà
àíãëèéñêèé. Êàê ýòî ñäåëàòü?
Èãîðü Çåëåíêîâ
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Hello!
Yesterday I have bought D-box 9500S,
but all it's on-screen menus are in German, but I think that it's possible
to switch
them to English. How to do it ?
Igor Zelenkov
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Åñëè ðåü èäåò î D-box, ñîçäàííîì äëÿ DF-1, òî âûíóæäåí îãîðèòü - âñå
îñíîâíûå ìåíþ ýòîãî àïïàðàòà òîëüêî íà íåìåöêîì è íèåãî ïåðåêëþàòü
íåëüçÿ. Âíóòðåííåå (êðàñíîå) ìåíþ, íàîáîðîò, òîëüêî íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå.
***
If you're operating a D-box, which was created for DF-1, I have to
disappoint you -
all main menus are in German only and no switching is possible. Internal
(red) menu is, oppositely, in English only.
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